I wouldn't go so far as to claim Manderlay is fun to watch. Von Trier, who can made compulsively watchable films ("Breaking the Waves"), has found a style that will alienate most audiences. Maybe it's necessary.
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Lars von Trier is back, so to speak--he's never visited the States, which makes his snide anti-American allegories even more infuriating to some….But the story holds up well enough to deliver a pointed critique of establishing self-rule at gunpoint.
Unstintingly raw and cynical, this disconcerting and deeply affecting State Of The Union treatise regularly comes dangerously close to caricature.
The acting has the bravura stage eloquence of Broadway Shakespeare and the movie is narrated, beautifully, by John Hurt.
To warm to Manderlay, the chilly second installment of Lars von Trier's not-yet-finished three-part Brechtian allegory examining United States history, you must be willing to tolerate the derision and moral arrogance of a snide European intellectual thumbing his nose at American barbarism.
It's an extremely cynical perspective, enforced by some disappointingly turgid melodrama, but keep in mind, this movie was made before an almost uniformly poor and black population was left to rot in New Orleans floodwaters. Even at his worst, von Trier can still strike a nerve.
Anybody can make a movie that's anti-slavery. But to make a movie that's explicitly anti-democracy-that's something.
One of the best things about real Americans is that we can stand criticism. Informed or idiotic, scholarly or superficial, it's all welcome.
To state the obvious, Manderlay is often patently offensive in its racial politics, and it surely isn't for everyone. It is, however, very funny, very dark and very skillfully played.
The dialogue is blunter, and harder for his amateur cast to pull off, while Lewis' stridency, however justified, ultimately jars against the film's tender, all-is-love fantasia.
挺好的一个故事 但完全没有实拍 像看了个录播的话剧
谁懂,我花一天的时间才看完这部电影。我很久没有这么用心的看一部电影了,因为嫌弃各种中字不好,我看的英字,虽然英字也有一些小错误但是好在这部电影的形式导致它台词发音都那么清楚。我真的没想到拉斯冯提尔竟然是这种态度,他真敢啊。查了一下这部电影的放映情况,很惨淡,因为题材和立场比较敏感,所以都是小规模放映、艺术放映,在一些特定的国家,最后被广泛的列为禁忌影片。ps,Bryce Dallas Howard长得好像Jessica Chastain...虽然我更喜欢妮可基德曼但是,这一部毫不逊色。真的太希望拉斯冯提尔能把《华盛顿》拍出来,我很想看到威廉达福和他的女儿还有他妻子之间的一些故事,一些他们去狗镇之前、去曼德勒庄园之前的事情,一些他们离开了这些地方之后的故事。因为在曼德勒中已经有所提及凤毛麟角...
幽默啊
Cinefan一二三月LvT专题@ IS|一定要看完片尾字幕仔细听片尾曲+配的照片!阴阳怪气到极点了哈哈哈哈!绝了这本子,没想到这么黑色幽默(后面的各种twist和reveal哈哈哈,拉丝又让理想主义者吃瘪好心办坏事)。阴阳美国人头号高手还得看欧洲(三部曲最后一部没拍出来真可惜)。然后这次不光是主角过性生活时有人死了,这次还是两次sex related action后事情急转直下,拉丝也太喜欢这个桥了笑死我了……观影乐趣来得比较缓慢,但越看越带劲👌首刷就是大银幕,超值💯这部看完LvT主要长片就只剩下失败作《美狄亚》没看了(而且除了自愿不看第二遍的《狗镇》其他全是(有在)影院观看,很完满的体验。
这个片子放在当下看真是非常应景,超前预言了美国政治局势的走势,基本上就是讲了一个民主党输给川普的故事。但我还是觉得不能仅从一些失败的案例就否定整套民主制度的价值,美式民主最大的价值恰恰就是其自身的纠错机制。我依然相信人类的历史是螺旋式上升的,在前进中曲折,在曲折中前进。身处历史的回撤过程中,也能更好地看清前进的路(Cine Fan@Emperor Cinemas iSquare)
少了妮可·基德曼,换成布莱丝,片子立马下降了一个档次。而且上一部明明已经让受到现实教训和社会毒打的大小姐回到真实人间了,这部却又强行让她退回从前的幼稚价值观,说实在的有点做作了。而且女主角那一副白左特有的高傲神情和自以为是的做派真令人讨厌。强行改变别人的生活方式,把自己的东西强加给别人,这不就是白左美国经常干的吗?这就让观众从一开始就不看好女主的改造曼德勒计划。所以最后女主角改造失败反被软禁恼羞成怒简直大快人心。说到底毕竟只是一个小女孩罢了,那些小情绪,还有对于强壮男子的性幻想,都太少女了。仅凭一腔热血就妄图改变社会还是太异想天开了。最后夸一句:这种简单布景更能体现小镇的原始风貌,而且没有花哨的场面和浮夸的特效,也能最大限度减少给观众带来的干扰,让观众把注意力更多地集中到人物和剧本上。7分。
喜欢摄影剪辑片尾,在如今的时代语境下看此片,似乎更有那么一份深思后的预见
2.5 这部可以,因为预设了先入为主的论点立场,冯胖子的自负就不那么太令人反感地可以接受,编排设计有明显对美国扒皮的动机,给前卫的形式赋予了一些社会意义。
6/10。冯疯子借助黑人投票的形式鞭打美国民主体制,格蕾丝动不动就以自身价值观衡量全世界的价值观,没想过黑人的感受却上课灌输自由意识,奴隶身份转变但实际地位没有提高,生存难以保障社会纷争加剧,甚至投票决定笑得多大声、判决偷粮食的饥饿老妇死刑。极简布景将重点放在表演上的做法毫无真实感。 @2016-11-06 15:22:23
不同于《狗镇》的人性拷打,这一部更在于批判社会制度。墙外的自由之风吹不进墙内,因为墙内也是个小社会,有自己完整的体系,有各式各样的人。受压迫太久的人类早已习惯于受到压迫,只有这样他们才能活命。女主人手札、编号和结尾处对美国的极大讽刺都非常有趣。
一直超级喜欢他的作品。
对美式民主与奴隶制的刻划过于苍白了些,另外,对舞台化的风格也失去了新鲜感。
前半部分有点无聊,后半部分的剧情还行~
我 不太懂啊
ChloëSevigny连这么小的角色都演,唉!
似懂非懂。。该死的字幕。。不过感觉还是觉得Dogville更深刻点
想要一个版本好一些的字幕
特里尔后期的作品强多了
14/4/2006 3:00pm Cultural Centre
2006/04/14 HKIFF 導演的美國幾部曲
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